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The illogicality of the anti-changing-healthcare argument

4 July 2017 · by  Fr. Ernesto 2 Comments

World Health Organization Ranking; The World’s Health Systems
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 USA
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
40 Brunei
41 New Zealand
42 Bahrain
43 Croatia
44 Qatar
45 Kuwait
46 Barbados
47 Thailand
48 Czech Republic
49 Malaysia
50 Poland
51 Dominican Republic
52 Tunisia
53 Jamaica
54 Venezuela
55 Albania
56 Seychelles
57 Paraguay
58 South Korea
59 Senegal
60 Philippines
61 Mexico
62 Slovakia
63 Egypt
64 Kazakhstan
65 Uruguay
66 Hungary
67 Trinidad and Tobago
68 Saint Lucia
69 Belize
70 Turkey
71 Nicaragua
72 Belarus
73 Lithuania
74 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
75 Argentina
76 Sri Lanka
77 Estonia
78 Guatemala
79 Ukraine
80 Solomon Islands
81 Algeria
82 Palau
83 Jordan
84 Mauritius
85 Grenada
86 Antigua and Barbuda
87 Libya
88 Bangladesh
89 Macedonia
90 Bosnia-Herzegovina
91 Lebanon
92 Indonesia
93 Iran
94 Bahamas
95 Panama
96 Fiji
97 Benin
98 Nauru
99 Romania
100 Saint Kitts and Nevis
101 Moldova
102 Bulgaria
103 Iraq
104 Armenia
105 Latvia
106 Yugoslavia
107 Cook Islands
108 Syria
109 Azerbaijan
110 Suriname
111 Ecuador
112 India
113 Cape Verde
114 Georgia
115 El Salvador
116 Tonga
117 Uzbekistan
118 Comoros
119 Samoa
120 Yemen
121 Niue
122 Pakistan
123 Micronesia
124 Bhutan
125 Brazil
126 Bolivia
127 Vanuatu
128 Guyana
129 Peru
130 Russia
131 Honduras
132 Burkina Faso
133 Sao Tome and Principe
134 Sudan
135 Ghana
136 Tuvalu
137 Ivory Coast
138 Haiti
139 Gabon
140 Kenya
141 Marshall Islands
142 Kiribati
143 Burundi
144 China
145 Mongolia
146 Gambia
147 Maldives
148 Papua New Guinea
149 Uganda
150 Nepal
151 Kyrgystan
152 Togo
153 Turkmenistan
154 Tajikistan
155 Zimbabwe
156 Tanzania
157 Djibouti
158 Eritrea
159 Madagascar
160 Vietnam
161 Guinea
162 Mauritania
163 Mali
164 Cameroon
165 Laos
166 Congo
167 North Korea
168 Namibia
169 Botswana
170 Niger
171 Equatorial Guinea
172 Rwanda
173 Afghanistan
174 Cambodia
175 South Africa
176 Guinea-Bissau
177 Swaziland
178 Chad
179 Somalia
180 Ethiopia
181 Angola
182 Zambia
183 Lesotho
184 Mozambique
185 Malawi
186 Liberia
187 Nigeria
188 Democratic Republic of the Congo
189 Central African Republic
190 Myanmar

As a country, we have been arguing over healthcare for several years now. There have been some outright whoppers being told on both sides. For instance, if you want to keep your insurance you can keep your insurance. It was not a lie, however, it was an inappropriate misdirection in that there was no mention that your insurance could very well disappear under the new regulations. In fact, that is what happened to various people. It was a lie by omission. On the other side was the whopper about death panels. There were never any death panels, and by now the Affordable Care Act has run long enough that is has proven the absolutely despicable lie that was told during the anti-Affordable Care Act campaign.

But, much of the argument about the Affordable Care Act, and now about single-payer healthcare, misses a very important point. You see, much of the argument against either some modification of the Affordable Care Act or against single-payer healthcare is based on a set of assumptions that are inaccurate. Most of the arguments against either healthcare proposal are based on pointing out issues with other systems. But, there is a major point that is missed. Every one of those arguments assume that the issues that we find in other systems will make our system worse. But, that is not actually true. That argument would be true if, and only if, we fully adopted the system of a nation that had worse healthcare than we do right now.

At the beginning of this post, I included a chart that comes from the World Health Organization that ranks national healthcare systems using various criteria. I should mention that there is at least one USA ranking system that places us even lower than what the World Health Organization ranks us. Now, let me go back several years to the original healthcare argument. At that time, many people argued that the WHO was lying because they were biased against the USA. While there are still a few that will argue that, the vast majority of people are now admitting that we have a troubled healthcare system that is NOT the number one healthcare system in the world. (In passing, that was the argument that was being used by several years ago.) And this brings us to an interesting logical point, if we use the various rankings of world healthcare systems.

I have a friend that consistently brings up that people from Canada drive to the USA to have an MRI performed. The reason is the waiting times to get an MRI in Canada. What that person says is absolutely and totally true. Canada is also a troubled system. However, whether on the WHO scale or the USA ranking system, Canada ranks 30th in the world. Here is the worst part. The USA ranks even lower than that. So, let’s look at this logically. If we were to fully adopt the deficient Canadian system, then overall we would still be better off than we are now. Our expenses would go down, and there is a good chance that life expectancy would increase over time. Mind you, increase only slightly, but, nevertheless, increase.

And there you see the logical problem with many of the arguments against changing our current healthcare system. We rank so low that we could adopt the system of up to 30 other countries and still save money and get better healthcare. Were we to adopt the healthcare system of either France, Italy, or Spain, we would have a highly efficient healthcare system that would save us a massive amount of money, plus probably help increase our life expectancy. Now, some of you will immediately try to look for death panels or some such other item against which to rail. But, there are two problems with that type of argumentation. First, we can tailor our regulations to be somewhat different than theirs. Second, in effect we have death panels, they are called insurance companies that will cheerfully disapprove and/or delay any and all treatment in order to not have to pay out, even if the patient dies (oh, so sorry). Third, in order to have to refuse to adopt any other system, you have to argue that it is better that people suffer or die than to have ordinary folk pay more taxes. But, even here there is a problem, if healthcare costs go down to the levels of any of the three nations I mentioned, then overall the savings to individuals would be far greater than any increase in taxes. You see, taxes may go up, but individual payments would almost disappear.

All three systems (France, Italy, Spain) allow individuals to freely go to personal physicians. You simply pay some extra. Thus, those who have money still get to have extra care, yet it would still cost less than what they are paying now. And now we are back to what I said back a couple of paragraphs ago. There are many healthcare systems that we could adopt that have problems, and yet would STILL be an improvement over the system we have going right now. And that is the problem with the argument that various people use against either the Affordable Care Act or some type of better-crafted replacement.

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  1. Warren says

    6 July 2017 at 13:56

    I’m a Canadian but spent five years in the US during my 37-year Air Force career. The Canadian health care system is more egalitarian than the American system; meaning the rich get a lower quality of care than their American counterparts, but the poor get better care. We all know which group has power over politicians and I can’t envisage a scenario where the American elite allows a change that would be to their detriment.

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  2. Ted says

    8 July 2017 at 07:48

    Padre, I’ve been on medical missions to the Dominican Republic and to Ecuador. Placing Ecuador at #111 might be about right, but the DR at #51 is highly optimistic.

    I think a lot of countries officially and legally “provide” health care to all, but when we see the quality of it we should ask, “What’s the point?”

    As in Ecuador, the Dominican hospitals are broken-down, poorly equipped and poorly staffed. The equipment—if they even have it—is 1970s era, possibly castoff from the US. Some of our older anesthesia providers get nostalgic in the operating rooms, using old equipment that they trained on, while the younger ones get a culture shock. The beds are broken and often propped up by concrete blocks and, if you want to raise the head of the bed, have someone go and find a stick on the junk pile out by the ambulance (you’ll recognize the ambulance by the red cross on the side, and the flat tire). Bend the nail over on the stick.

    The power goes off every afternoon in the Dominican Republic and maybe someone will start the generator. If not, our OR team will use headlamps and light from iPhones. The water doesn’t work. The toilets clog up with no water.

    Giving the Dominican nurses instructions to care for overnight patients is unreliable. Regardless of their understanding, too often we return the next morning to find empty I.V. bags and medications not given—even if we have communicated it to the Dominican doctor who was supposed to be on duty. For anything urgent, we need one of our docs or nurses to come in during the middle of the night.

    So, 51 is optimistic. For Ecuador, as I said, 111 is about right, but change everything “Dominican” in the preceding paragraphs to “Ecuadorian” and you’ll be accurate, except the electricity stays on pretty well in Ecuador.

    As in any country, the rich have their private hospitals. The poor get free care, for what it’s worth, but you won’t find any of the rich in the public hospitals—unless we gringos are there, then the rich will get in line first if they can. And raise a stink if they can’t.

    You know the drill. You’ve seen it in Peru and other places.

    But don’t get me started on the US system, either. Ours is not a matter of quality, it’s a matter of funding it. Our insurance system is double-paying, first by financing it and paying the bankers, also-known-as insurance companies, then letting the insurance pay, at their discretion, the hospitals. We need to get rid of the insurance companies from the health care system.

    I’m on Obamacare. It works, but needs an overhaul. As a self-employed person, I never know how much I’ll make each year and have been on the edge of having to pay back, with my April 15th 1040 form, $20,000 in subsidies (we prefer to call it “tax credit”) each year for the past two years. Keeping my old insurance, as it turns out, was never an option after all, as I had a deductible of $15,000 to make the premiums affordable, and high deductibles are no longer permitted.

    Repeal and replace? Yes, but only if it’s an improvement. Otherwise, let’s fix Obamacare and call it something else if we have to, so the Republicans can keep blaming Obama.

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